Should Teachers Be Legally Allowed To Spank Your Child?

A Kansas lawmaker is proposing a bill that would allow parents to give permission to caregivers and teachers to spank children hard enough to leave marks.

To spank or not to spank.

The topic is a controversial one among parents. Some believe spanking is necessary to raise well-behaved children. Others that it is a form of child abuse. 

In Kansas one lawmaker is proposing that child caregivers, teachers and parents should legally be allowed to spank children hard enough to leave marks, according to a story by the Associated Press.

Wichita Democratic Rep. Gail Finney said he wants to allow up to 10 strikes of the hand and that could leave redness and bruising, according to the AP story. The bill would continue to ban hitting a child with fists, in the head or body, or with a belt or switch.

blackoutmetal666 February 19, 2014 at 11:51 PM
Some of you people should have never had children in the first place.
Owen February 20, 2014 at 07:12 AM
most of the morons, that are so called parents, have children that talk back, curse them, and carry on like fools, seems to me, thay can use all the help they can get.......
4Integrity February 20, 2014 at 07:20 AM
Most young parents I see today do a great job. These are the parents who take TIME out to parent properly and TALK to and with their children. They don't want an easy solution like spanking or turning over their job of parenting to others. Spanking is to me admitting failure on the part of the parent--mentally and physically. You have no reason to hit a child when there are teaching methods--one is discussion. You hit, the child hits, anger and resentment set in--later emotional issues. Yes, these could happen by chance no matter what a parent does but why take the unnecessary chance. I really question any parent who spanks--never once entered my mind as I love my children. Perhaps many should not have children if they are not ready for the challenge!
Tom Hollman February 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM
Hug them in public and Belt them in the car
Stevo February 20, 2014 at 10:24 AM
It's wonderful that there are so many perfect parents out there who seem justified in bashing other parents they deem no good. I know your type. You have many skeletons in your closet and your perfect children are just as capable of bad behavior as any other kid. You are in what is commonly called, "DENIAL". Get over yourselves. There are no perfect parents, and no one has all the answers!!
Ginny Dorrington February 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM
Condoning a bigger,stronger, more mature person to physically assault a younger, weaker member of society/family? No,no, no
tamarya February 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM
Thats another problem stevo, parents don't support each other they bash each other instead. I am sure most of us have been spanked at some point as a child, so i guess the ones against spanking are saying their parents were abusive non loving bastards. As for the one that said they see young parents do pretty well with their kids, i will clue you in, they may have respect in public but how the parent handles them at home is beyond your awareness. Those kids may know a spanking is coming when they get home if they act out of control, because most people will never do it in public, seeing all these comments stupidity has taken over if someone does it in public. And tom guarantee someone will have a comment against you i bet, give it time.
tamarya February 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM
How can kids learn respect when parent does one thing but meanwhile someone bashes the parent for doing it. That tells the kid you can't do this to me so i will do what i want. Like i said awhile back, think about what keeps us in line, consequences that is, same as a child needs that too. Not love and a hug when they screw up.
4Integrity February 20, 2014 at 01:58 PM
Hey Tamarya--Never been spanked in my life nor have my children ever been spanked in their lives. All doing well too! Know many families inside and out to know their values and when you have values you raise children the best you can to do the best they can. No one is perfect by any means but should try to do and be the best they can. The spankers are in the minority (thankfully) as statistics show and most suffer the negative effects that spanking can bring. I suggest you go on websites about corporal punishment and it's negative affects on children.
Michael John Torrey February 20, 2014 at 03:58 PM
Attn: Mr. Bryan Harz: Date: February 20, 2014 As to your question about disciplinary action when it comes to young adults? When I became a young adult my mother became a Kem Po Master and she didn't need a Kem Po Martial Art Instructor. All she needed was a broomstick and my behind. As I got older she bought a gun. No matter how old you get that kind of discipline will be with you until the day you die. Students must remember they are going to be parents some day themselves. Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA, 94501-1875
Michael John Torrey February 20, 2014 at 04:36 PM
Attn: Mr. Gogidy Fum Date: February 20, 2014 Another good saying is "Don't Make A Mountain Out Of A Mole Hill" Fighting a teacher back is just not worth it. That will turn that limited disciplinary action into and extended whipping after your parents bail you out of jail if they should decide to. And that could take a while especially if they, the Dean, and the instructor think you may need some time out to think about. If I were you I would think thrice if not twice about fighting your School Personnel. Just a word to the not so wise. Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA. 94501-1875
tamarya February 20, 2014 at 05:07 PM
4integrity I do not buy the internet researches today on child rearing. I get my advice from parents that parented children that are now respectful adults. Basically on going on anything from the internet we should just put our kids in bubbles and give them nothing but hugs. Sorry this world is not fairytale land i would like my kids to be raised as humans not entitled prince and princess. I was in counseling because of being bullied in school and as a teenager i attempted suicided, you know what words came out of the proffesional counselars mouth to me a 14 yr old child, she told me right out if you do this and suceed your family will move on and you will be looked at as a coward because anyone that does that is a coward, well you know what the non sugarcoating and making excuses response set me straight and made me realize what i did was wrong. And like i said this was a child pshycologist back in the 90's that said those words to me. Now those words we be outright horrible to speak to a precious child.
tamarya February 20, 2014 at 05:21 PM
But anyway i will admit i got spanked once or twice as a kid, never again after that once was because of something i did in school and back then they never called till the end of the day when you were home. I did get punished in school too. But what i did was i went and said i had permission to get on another school bus and go home with a friend, back then you did not need letters from parents stating approval so they let me go, well we were in a community so the bus stopped for other kids but my mom was waiting for me to get off the bus and guess who was not on the bus, needless to say she was not too happy and i was about 7 when i did this. The other instance was i left out a potty word in the middle of the mall because i did not want to get on the escalators and then i got it in the mall while everyone just looked and snickered, after their heads turned when they heard the word come out.
Bill February 21, 2014 at 09:15 AM
4Integrity....spankings way down...school shootings and out of control behavior way up. Please explain where all the non spanking parents are failing and what they can do to stop their kids from acting out and shooting up our schools. I'm neither for or against spanking as a method of discipline just observing that children were far more respectful of life, teachers, elders and peers during the era of spankings.
Bill February 21, 2014 at 09:20 AM
Forgot to add the kids of yesteryear during the spanking era also scored far higher in Math skills and other skills and graduated at higher rates and a larger number of them were better prepared for college during the spanking era. Again, neither for or against spanking but your description of the eutopia created by a spank free society simply doesn't pass the eye ball test. Please explain all the school shootings, bullying, violence and overall atrocious behavior displayed by children in our schools today verses the much better behavior and better test scores verses the rest of the world during the era of spankings.
tamarya February 21, 2014 at 03:48 PM
I just realized something the ones on here saying they were never spanked are the ones that would be ripping the teacher apart basically if they spanked their child, which is violence. The ones that dont spank also seem to be giving their children some sort of self entitlement. We see those problem kids enough too. I was spanked a couple times as a kid and i would never think of using violence as an answer no matter how mad someone made me, the only way i would is if i come to where i hve to make a desicion of harming or being killed.
Michael John Torrey February 23, 2014 at 04:23 PM
Note: To Whom It May Concern. Date: February 23, 2014 The Difference Between A Stern Spanking & A Severe Whipping; "A Stern Spanking May Give Life, A Severe Whipping May Take It Away". Mankind Conceives The Child, God Creates The Child, Woman Delivers The Child, And A Stern Spanking Gives Life To The Child. Will We Let A Severe Whipping Take It Away? What do you the students think? Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA. 94501-1875
Shaka Zulu February 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM
just do the proper thing and follow the liberals agenda, get married to a person of your own sex, and if you get knocked up, please abort fetus as soon as possible, the tax payers would appreciate it since most of you can't even feed yourselves or your off spring now.
Carol Levy February 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM
libe believe in ggving those of the same sex, people born homosexual, the right to have the same relationships as heterosexuals, 17 states have legalized it and the SCOTUS, right leaning, has said it is Okay. "Knocked up"? Tell that to a woman raped, a victim of incest, someone whose birth control failed, because none is 100% even vasectomy, or someone with health issues that make pregnancy dangerous, that they should not have the legal right to an abortion, a medical procedure and one that should be between a doctor and his patient, not the government and a woman. And tell seniors, disabled, working poor, military, that yhey are sponging off the government. Had it ont been for the policies and 2 recessions under Bush, in 02 and o7 (the latter the worst in history, and for no jobs bills from the repubs, the numbers that need help would not need it. And let's hiope you don't become a poor, disabled, senior, lose your job, lose your savings, etc and have need of the safety net. Shame on you. Typical of the right (I have to assume by your message you are a repub and maybe even further right then that. GOP mantra Ive got mine and the heck with you.
Carol Levy February 24, 2014 at 01:21 PM
Yes youre right but that does not mean that one should not respond to comments. If you do not like the way the discussion is, or has gone, maybe you can redirect it back by posting something related to the story. I looked at your profile. It appears, as with the rest of us, you are a commenter and as such are not the decider on in what direction comments should go. Thank you for your cooperation.
Michael John Torrey February 24, 2014 at 01:23 PM
Attn: Mr. Mrs. Ms. Carol Levy Date: February 24, 2014 This Topic has nothing to do with homosexuality, same sex marriage, or rape. This topic is about disciplinary action in a pedagogical environment. My comment on February 23, 2014 was in line with the topic of discussion. It had nothing to do with the three topics mentioned above. As for my comment to Shaka Zulu a few minutes ago. I felt that comment was out of line and not within the topic of discussion. Let us not change the topic of discussion please? Thank You for your cooperation. Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA. 94501-1875
Michael John Torrey February 24, 2014 at 01:38 PM
Attn: Mr. Mrs. Ms. Carol Levy Date: February 24, 2014 Mrs. Levy you are right also. one always has the right to respond with comments. But one's comment should always be in line with the topic of discussion. I did not mean that you should not respond. I merely commented that it just seemed to me that your comment was out of line. However I am not the Chairman of the Board here and I did not post said topic. I don't want you to think that I am violating your First Amendment Right. I would never do that. Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA. 94501-1875
Carol Levy February 24, 2014 at 01:51 PM
Shaka Zulu made a comment to which I responded. I did not go off topic, as per her comment. I am out of here. Thank you
Michael John Torrey February 24, 2014 at 02:06 PM
Attn: Mrs. Ms. Carol Levy Date: February 24, 2014 Yes Mrs. Levy that is very true. But Shaka's comment was out of line and that is what threw your comment out of line. And I addressed Shaka on that as well on this day @ 12:59 PM. your time. Hopefully Shaka read my comment to you @ 1:23 as well and got the point. Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA. 94501-1875
Leonard February 24, 2014 at 02:33 PM
You know, I just got a text from my ex-wife telling me my 16 year old son stormed out of the class room last week because he was upset about a grade he got. Now I think I'm rethinking my position on this matter. That teacher should have went up-side his head with the nearest textbook available. Now I'm going to have words with this boy (really strong words he doesnt want to escalate it with me), and his teacher will be recieving an unexpected apology but the mind set of these kids these days make me want to erupt in violence myself. I don't see how these teachers cope these days.
tamarya February 24, 2014 at 04:24 PM
I feel bad for teachers and parents these kids walk around like little spoiled rotten rulers, atarting to make me love pets more than kids.
4Integrity February 25, 2014 at 09:18 AM
Bill--Parents could start by being parents: talk to their children, listen to them, teach them, love them. So many these days put themselves first to the detriment of their children. Children know and act accordingly. You get what you give--in most cases. There are always exceptions in life but parents should do their best to try to avoid the pitfalls in society. If one reads the documented statistics on spanking one would not resort to such an abusive form of discipling when one could reason, love, understand and give time outs and the like if necessary. Spanking is an easy solution to teachable moments in the life of children.
Michael John Torrey February 25, 2014 at 01:44 PM
Attn: Mr. Mrs. Ms. Shaka Zulu Date: February 25, 2014 CORRECTION TO COMMENT DATE FEBRUARY 24, 2014 @ 12:59: This may come as a big shocka to you but two men & two women will never be able to conceive. For the sake of the not so wise you need to be a little more elucidative. Secondly half of your comment was out of line in the first place. Michael John Torrey E-Mail-mjohntorrey54@yahoo.com Alameda, CA. 94501-1875
Cheryl Morris February 25, 2014 at 01:58 PM
POWERSCHOOL is a website that your school can use for teachers to upload every assignment name and grade, total grades, attendance, etc. We have it e-mail us every day on our son. Your kids have their own log-in so they can check it too.
Bryan Harz February 25, 2014 at 03:38 PM
Cheryl, we have PaentConnect for grades/attendance and Blackboard for assignments. It is a great way to keep in touch with what's going on in school. Being able to contact teachers via e-mail is also very useful. And for the record, I don't believe anyone other than a parent should discipline their child. How they do that at home is their own business, as long as it isn't abuse.


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